Chris Doering sounds off on Jaden Rashada NIL situation at Florida
Chris Doering doesn’t sound like a fan of the whole Jaden Rashada saga at Florida.
Rumors are swirling that the 5-star QB has asked for his release from his National Letter of Intent at Florida due to not getting enough NIL money.
On SiriusXM Radio on Wednesday, Doering, a former Florida receiver, sounded off on Rashada:
Per reports, 5-star QB recruit Jaden Rashada has asked for a release from his National Letter of Intent at Florida.
Former Gator @ChrisDoering says he's happy to hear that news. Here's why:⬇️ pic.twitter.com/ENXQL9o7QZ
— College Sports on SiriusXM (@SXMCollege) January 18, 2023
“I’m even more happy that he didn’t get that $13 million reported NIL deal, that it fell through,” Doering said. “I would be so upset and so offended as a former Gator. … I may not have ever deserved $13 million for an NIL deal, but you know who did? Tim Tebow. Danny Wuerffel. Emmitt Smith. And you know why? It’s because of what they did when they played at the University of Florida.
“The idea of paying some kid we don’t even know is going to be good $13 million to come put on the orange and blue? I know the day has changed and there are motives outside of just the love of university and the opportunity to play in the SEC, but this kid does not deserve $13 million and I am so glad to hear that Florida will not be paying him that. And I’m happy to hear that he will not be attending the University of Florida.”
Where will Rashada end up next? It sounds like whatever school takes him better have deep pockets.
So after the kids signs, the gators renig on their side of the deal and do not want to pay him. Sounds like the gators
Classic gator moment (don’t attack me it was a joke).
sad to say I can’t argue with your comments 493.. if the collective and rashada agreed on that figure that is what should have happened . No high school kid should get this kind of money but if that was the deal and the collective did not hold their part up just makes Florida look so bad to recruits . Hate this nil but it’s now the name of the game .
The NIL is and will ruin college football. But like the old saying, “a deals a deal”.
But, we have ZERO conclusive evidence that the collective and Rashada EVER agreed to a $13 million deal. That’s just a figure some unknown source floated out there and everyone just ran with it because it’s so outrageous.
A lie can go around the world before the truth puts its boots on.
That is so true 98, so sadly true!
Yes, we have no idea who did what for sure. Still, even a discussion of millions for a high school unproven athlete sure makes me say, what a minute and get more info. It seems illogical. Maybe pay based on performance, like coaches should have to do but don’t. (Chad Morris says “thank you” with Harsin smiling in the background). Pack up, we’re moving to the SEC. “Think you can do well there?” Does it matter????
I agree with Chris. $13 Million ? Name-Image-Likeness has gotten far out of hand now.
“The Gators” didn’t renege (that’s how you actually spell that word) on anything. Some idiots calling themselves the Gator Collective did. CBN didn’t promise that kid a penny. I wish anyone luck who gets this kid. Just like McClain. It’s all about the money, and that doesn’t make a team when one kid has millions and most don’t get a dime.
Now ’73, don’t go spelling words correctly on here.
True! Many folks on here are challenged enough stringing together coherent sentences. Proper spelling is a bridge too far.
The school didn’t make the agreement and never promised anything beyond a scholarship. I think there is much more to this story in why this fell through but no one is talking which is suspicious because you would think his side would be very vocal about what happened if they had no part in it going sideways.
Great points Seven, but even if this wasnt on Rashada his party throwing UF under the bus could turn off other pursuing schools. I think the statement released by the gator collective shed light on what really happened. I think a booster pledged a certain amount of money and then backed out. The collective wont name ir throw that booster under the bus for fear him not providing future funds.
You don’t know that.
It could be that after Rashada had a deal he was the one who reneged and asked for more on signing day.
You could say Oregon approached him at the UA game and offered him more than his deal with Florida and he wanted the Gators to up the ante.
So stop making uninformed assumptions
How would he do that? If he has signed away his NIL rights to the gator collective, he has lost his negotiating position.
JTF, Cojones is addressing the void of factual information on this soap opera, and merely stating a different hypothetical. All we have at this point is speculation, some of it logical and some of it illogical, but speculation nevertheless. In point of fact, I don’t know if we’ll ever get a factual explanation of culpability – it will soon lose its valence and I’m quite sure there will be yet another related drama somewhere else.
ha. I can say anything, and you can’t reply because you promised not to comment on it again! Actually, I agree and am done with the subject as well.
I suspect a lot of us are. This is echelons above our ability to influence, as are New Year’s resolutions! I may sit out the remainder of silly season …. but I know I won’t. Nash told me that this is a necessary outlet, and I agree with that even though I’m long since retired from a high-pressure occupation like his.
JTF, I’m late to this discussion, but in the arena of “what we know” is that, by NCAA rule, an athlete may NOT SIGN an NIL contract with an official NIL collective until AFTER he’s signed his NLI. So, the deal he was presented by the Gator collective to sign AFTER he signed his NLI was not to his liking, for whatever reason.
From that starting point, there are multiple divergent stories on the internet as to what went down when and who’s at fault for this debacle. The only relevant FACTS to add to the story are these:
1) Rashada repeatedly said he was happy and looking forward to signing up with the Gators right up until NLI early signing day,
2) On early signing day Oregon lost their 5-star QB to UCLA in a surprise move nobody saw coming,
3) Later on early signing day, Rashada DELAYED signing his NLI long enough to cause Napier to delay his afternoon press conference by an hour. So, clearly something went off the rails with his NIL deal that very day.
4) The collective and Rashada’s agent had a full month to work out ALL the NIL contract details, from the day he flipped from Miami in November to NLI signing day in late December, and Rashada went ahead and signed his NLI after the initial delay.
Here’s my take on the above facts. The original NIL deal was on the table for Rashada to sign right after he signed his NLI. Some third party got to him on signing day and his agent moved the goal post. The Gator collective told him to go ahead and sign his NLI and “they’d work NIL things out.”
Keep in mind, to Rashada’s agent, “work things out” meant the Gator collective had just signed a blank check, because nobody knew on signing day what the third party would offer.
And here we are.
StL, I think you are incorrect about the timing of when a recruit can sign his NIL. You are a very knowledgeable commenter. But I think you missed on that one.
I stand corrected JTF. I did a little more research on the details and turns out a HS athlete can sign an NIL deal before signing his NLI and, in CA where Rashada is from, even monetize it. Thanks for the heads up!
However, the Gator NIL cooperative is a group of wealthy businessmen. They wouldn’t enter into a legal agreement with an athlete that they couldn’t live up to. That’s the easiest way I know of to get sued for breach of contract!
So, the starting point for this mess may well have been a signed agreement Rashada was happy with right up to NLI signing day. Then, something changed.
If the collective unilaterally withdrew from the signed agreement, a Rashada lawsuit for breach of contract would already be on file somewhere. Yet, all we got out of the Rashada camp is an NCAA request to void the NLI he signed with UF.
Rashada’s actions since signing day make no sense, legally or financially, unless there’s a silent third party involved in this mess.
I agree. I said early on that if there was a signed contract lawyers would be circling the gator Collective.
Keep in mind, the Gators didn’t religion on a deal, the collective that made the deal did. The university had nothing to do with it.
And as Doering said, I am glad I itnfell apart. This NIL stuff is ridiculousness current form… pay players millions once they are on campus and school is making money off their performance. Paying HS kids as a recruiting tool is utterly ridiculous and will destroy interest in thensport.
Micheal, the report I read said the yinformed Jaden w few days/week before he signed that the deal was off the table. If thats true and he still decided to sign……
That sequence of events is illogical. If the original NIL deal that caused him to flip from Miami to UF was taken off the table BEFORE NLI signing day, then Rashada wouldn’t have signed his NLI with UF and created this circus.
He would simply have de-committed from UF and reopened his recruitment. That’s what Cormani McClain did to Miami.
well if the word that he really wanted to be a Gator and only commited to Miami because of NIL is true then…. also the dad spoke like they were still trying to work things out orginally.
Actually hate Florida, but what Chris said is true. Also, there was just so much wrong with this whole scenario. Even worse, Florida is the new Tennessee when it comes bad coaching hires. It took way to long for Tennessee to get back on track. CBN is garbage, you cannot hang onto him to long. When he goes 5-7 this year, cut the leash
Does not matter, they promised to pay the kid and then he signs and they back out, they tricked him.
But the school didn’t promise this and had no part in the deal.
Whatever Michael493 wants to believe is what Michael493 will believe.
Yep! What he said. ^^^
Still Florida has gotten a black eye from all the negative publicity. Other athletes will be leery to sign with the Gators because of this incident. I would not like to be Billy Napier about now. The Gators rebuild just took two(2) steps back.
Technically, the Gator collectives didn’t promise to “pay” him any more than they offered him when he happily flipped from UM to UF in November. It’s just that after NLI signing day in December that promised offer wasn’t enough.
UF didn’t promise anything…
Who is “they” in they promised? 100% sure Rashada is lawyered up and his legal team / agent working for him bears some responsibility.
Again won’t argue with the comments you made either sugar vols.. you guys know all about bad coaching hires and it seems Florida is now going to one up the vols in that dept . Glad Tennessee found their guy and I am in hope Florida can find theirs as well ( if it’s not Napier)
At least all of our bad hires beat UT most of the time….like the VAST majority of the time.
And very likely again next season.
Wadeless, nail meet mr hammer.
Auburn: “Hold my beer”. Just watch. They’re going in a ditch for the next 20 years.
A very stupid & uniformed take. This whole saga has nothing to do with Napier. It’s been around for almost 2 years and it’s amazing how many people still don’t know how NIL works. Do more homework & research.
Florida doesn’t come close to Tenn when it comes to clown coach circuses, no one does. No where else can you find the sheet show of the Greg Schiano ordeal, closest thing would be the Harsin fiasco but that pales compared to Tenn
Exactly….even this year they got shook at the ending.
Doering is way off base here. It’s not the kids fault, I’m sure if Doering accepted the SiriusXM job then after accepting it found out they’re only planning on paying him 25% of what he was offered he would not simply say “that’s fair, I didn’t deserve what they said they would pay me anynow”. Lol, no way. This isn’t the kid’s fault for being promised something much different that what he was going to get.
Booches, I understand where you are coming from. However, what’s not being said is that the Gator Collective pulled the deal in early December. Now in January we have this kids people putting out there something totally egregious.
Doering didn’t blame the kid. He just said he’s glad he’s not getting $13 million before ever playing a down in orange and blue.
I’m glad too. And I don’t blame the kid either.
Nash, I’m vowing (to myself at least) that this will be the last time I respond to (a) the Rashada affair and, (b) NIL. For the record, glad as well Rashada is gone and NIL is cancer.
–Gator 6 Out
NOTE TO LEELAND BEFORE YOU ASK: No, I didn’t make any New Year’s resolutions since I’ve never kept them anyway! (:
Again another poster talking out of his rear end. You don’t know who pulled the deal, what the deal was, or who asked for more
Booches…You post sounds like a true Mizzou fan.
I didn’t see any kid blaming. It was the scenario….
No clue who’s at technical fault here, but if the reported number is anywhere near the correct zip code it was sheer lunacy on the collective’s part.
This whole NIL legalization really isn’t any more transparent than the infamous bagman days. The universities plead FERPA, and the collectives, agents and athletes aren’t talking. What could go wrong?
Clearly it was lunacy, agreed.
Amen. Question for the audience: How in the world do these players even get into UF academically? It must be magic bc practically only 1 out of every 500 kids from the state can even get in.
It’s not magic. Players get in if they qualify for the university’s minimum academic requirements. The rest of the applicants don’t have the attraction from the university because of their athletic abilities, so the best qualified applicants get in because every university is limited in terms of total number of new admissions available.
Somewhere a journalist or writer will pick up on the idea to compile a book of the early NIL deals and inner-workings.
I think you should run with it. Good luck
I’m neither a writer nor a journalist. I’ll stick to running the fry station at Burger King.
The research alone should be an interesting challenge. Like, how would anyone be able to know who’s telling the truth and who’s telling a $13 million lie?
I’m with Doering on this one. As a Gator fan, I’m glad the Rashada circus has vacated Hogtown.
Good riddance!
Here here!
“I may not have ever deserved $13 million for an NIL deal, but you know who did? Tim Tebow. Danny Wuerffel. Emmitt Smith.”
That’s not how it works. None of these teams or players are guaranteed to be worth their NIL payments. Classic example, pretty sure OSU didn’t get their money’s worth out of the Quinn Ewers NIL deal before he transferred to Texas.
Was it 13 mil? THAT’s the issue…
I’m sorry, kid, you signed with the Univeristy. NIL is outside that line. Now you want out? Assuming the rumor is true…I say let him go. Never keep an employee that doesn’t want to work for you. Poison. Gators got a hard road ahead even with Rashada. The beauty of college ball is being hammered, between opt-outs, non-sit-out for transfer, NIL. Our beloved sport is being ruined. Yes, the Universities have benefited without giving these kids jack. The althetes deserve something, but this is getting out of hand. I’m not smart enough to know what that something is. NCAA football commish? SCOTUS ruling is problematic. Holding the love for the best sport around, but
getting cranky.
I agree with you, Adirondack. The players should be compensated but there should be regulations in place. I do hope that we’ll still have college football as we’ve known it in a few years. I also agree that the Gators have a ways to go, but hopefully they’ll grow stronger and more united from this fiasco.
AdirondackGator…great post ! I concur with your thinking. The genie is out of the bottle now and uncontrolled.
I may not have read everything and thus don’t have the whole story. With that said, what is truly known here? Did the kid and his family not like the terms once they really dug into them (i.e. you don’t get the $13M up front)? Did someone else come in and tempt the kid to bail and blame? Did the collective really just pull the plug and sc r ew the kid? It seems like a lot of the blame is not focused on the kid and at this point I don’t believe there is enough evidence to suggest that. Regardless, it looks like the overwhelming sentiment is that this NIL/Transfer portal is the beginning of the end for the best sport going.
Upon a little extra reading, I do stand corrected on the first part (still believe NIL/Transfer is f ing up the sport). I guess the Collective not only sc r ewed the kid they sc r ewed Florida as well. This just adds an additional layer of stink to NIL as coaches and staff lose control.
Who is they, Micheal493? Do you have any documentation that this “they” offered this kid 13 mil?
Unfortunate situation for sure, but Florida did the right thing letting this young man find a home elsewhere.
Technically, Florida has 30 days to decide to let him go, assuming he really did request to be released. Not that they should take more than 30 seconds to make that decision.
Once again, addition by subtraction. Good riddance!
This is where Doering and the rest of the talking hair-do’s aren’t intelligent enough to understand. This is a capitalist society. The players for years were not given benefits which Supreme Court made clear was a complete violation of their inherent rights. No other area of society disallows people to make all the money they can make, I.e., child actors and on and on. If you can get it then you make it. The market will correct itself at some point to what a free market corrects itself to. Go coach football Chris and Roman and Ben Harper and the rest of you or have something more intelligent to say when you try to talk about an above room temp iq topic.
Roman Harper and Ben Watson etc.
The Supreme Court has never even mentioned NIL legislation.
They directly paved the way for NIL by emphatically ruling to the NCAA that players are a free market place with no restrictions. They in the ruling were appalled that the NCAA has prevented a free marketplace this entire time. That’s what paved the way for NIL, in essence a free marketplace. Why Congress or no state entity has intervened NIL is because of the ruling with the NCAA.
By telling the NCAA to stand the heck out of the way has opened up all NIL doors for athletes.
NCAA v. Alston ruled the NCAA was in violation by limiting student athlete marketplace. Soon after, the NCAA announced they would not interfere in any way the NIL marketplace. Not only was the NCAA never having policing powers, they then were completely eliminated to any interference with student athlete compensation.
Google is your friend.
None of that is true. Alston merely said schools could not limit educational benefits. Educational.
Google it.
Harvard Law Review: “In NCAA v. Alston, the Suoreme Court held that rules limiting education related compensation violated Section 1 of the Sherman Act. Shortly after the Ciurts decision, the NCAA voted of its own accord to allow a student athlete to receive compensation for their NAME IMAGE and LIKENESS.”
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Justice Gorsuch made it clear any NCAA limitations violated the Sherman Act.
Playing football for a university is precisely an “education related” benefit. The case wouldn’t be before the court but for being just what it is, a violative restriction to benefits student athletes can receive.
And JTF you are right. While the case did not directly rule on NIL the ruling in my opinion made it clear to the NCAA they could not limit NIL and it’s up to the individual states to come up with NIL guidelines if you will. But it would seem anything other than a free marketplace would be deemed violative.
Educational benefits are listed in the decision. Playing football isn’t one.
Alston deals with how much money a universities can spend on those benefits. NIL is not a university expense. Apples/oranges.
There is a lawsuit currently under way by NLRB against USC/UCLA to address the issue of “are players employees”? This will probably bubbled up to SCOTUS at some point. Took Alston 7 years.
But, NIL was a product of the California legislature. But it is not mentioned in Alston and in fact Kavannah actually says this doesn’t affect any other forms of compensation. If laws are passed making players employees, I suspect the SCOTUS would uphold them.
Glass half empty- SDS is now obsessed with running stories on Rashada and NIL. Glass half full— this is distracting them from running any more articles on patience.
My challenge to SDS— create an article that combines your three obsessions— Rashada, Richardson and patience:
I’m waiting to see what happens with AR15 in the upcoming NFL draft, I’m sure the articles are coming
Well truth, that the problem with logging on to a Florida Gator centric website.
JTF; yes.
I’m a Tennessee fan and I f!@#$%ng hate Florida. But I’m with Chris on this one.
Again with the hate.
Doc, hate is one of the few emotions Vol fans have. It’s all those years of living in the wasteland of SEC football with coaches like Dooley/Butch/Pruitt that has made them this way.
Lets see how long my man Heupel can do it at this level.
Smitty, I’ve followed Heuple’s career for some time and suspect that he’ll do it for a good while until the NFL calls. Won’t be a smooth road all the way just as it wasn’t this year, and not saying that a Tennessee natty will be a result – but I think they’ll be in the CFP sooner than later.
AFan, try as I might hate is just not an emotion that I can generate. The closest I can come is with FSU, but that’s only because it’s state law in Florida to choose one or the other. (:
A lot of these comments just illustrate how disorganized collectives and NIL is becoming. If the school isn’t “involved” in these deals, and they’re a bystander letting the agents/collectives function outside of their prevue, this is what happens. But from my understanding, the institutions are not allowed to be in the process. The entire structure is a disaster. As dysfunctional as the NCAA has been, this could be the worst position they’ve taken across a myriad of other bad positions.
This is all we know. The kid signed and submitted and UF accepted a NLI.
Not one other thing do we know for sure.
We don’t know who backed out of the NIL agreement, how much it was for, if any school has tampered, if UF or CBN were involved in the NIL offer or refusal. Every thing is just speculation.
Stay tuned. We will eventually. Maybe
I’ve read that no one is making this kind of money on NIL deals. According to On3, the highest reported amount in 2022 was $3.2m for Bryce Young. Caleb Williams $2.5m. Those are your last two Heisman winners. And you expect me to believe some kid out of HS who never played a down in college is getting $13m? That’s hard to believe.
13 mil over 4 years. So 3.25 a year, which is crazy, but not as bad as flat saying 13 mil
Correct
Plenty of schools navigate the NIL waters just fine. The Gators just aren’t very good at it. This is a Gator problem…not an NIL problem.
broken record
Agree with Chris Doering. That amount of money for an unproven player is insane. Florida should gladly let him go seek out his true worth. If he’s really that good, somebody will pay him.
Hmmm…Is Fred Levin still alive? Just a thought.
I’m with the Gators and Doering
Lawyers and money destroy everything. CFB is becoming a colossal bore. The rich get richer, just like in real life.
I read that this kid was the 7th rated QB in his class. $13 Million for a 7th rated QB=insanity at it’s highest by the collective. I recall another QB that had all the fans saying ooh & aah about his potential greatness. His name is Anthony Richardson #15 Gator.