Hayes: Nick Saban knows the end is here. Just look at his final, desperate ballot
He just can’t leave well enough alone. Not even for a damn day.
College football coaches are asked to submit their vote for the final USA Today coaches poll within 24 hours of the national championship game. Alabama coach Nick Saban is 1 of 63 coaches who voted in the poll.
You can see where this is going.
Fresh off Georgia’s back-to-back national titles, a day removed from the reality of a new king in college football, Saban — the former king of all things college football — voted like this:
- 1. Georgia
- 2. Alabama
- 3. TCU
- 4. Michigan
- 5. Ohio State
I mean, how transparent can one be?
Honestly, this is the stuff of petulant children. This is a temper tantrum of the highest order, a statement so shameless, he may as well have held a press conference to explain the vote.
You want me on that wall, you need me on that wall!
We should’ve seen this coming all along. Saban stood at the podium after Alabama’s meaningless bowl win over an equally meaningless opponent and declared that the game proved Alabama should have been selected to the Playoff.
You want should have? I’ll give you should have.
Alabama should have not blown 4th-quarter leads to both Tennessee and LSU, which both came back on the last play of their respective games to get critical wins.
Alabama should have recruited and developed and coached better in the secondary, where it couldn’t consistently cover in nearly every game that mattered.
Alabama should have run the ball on the last drive against Tennessee, when it had 1st-and-10 at the Vols’ 32 with 34 seconds to play. Three straight incompletions and a missed field goal left 15 seconds on the clock for that same Alabama secondary to defend.
Alabama should have been more disciplined in losses to Tennessee and LSU, where it committed a combined 26 penalties for 222 yards.
The Tide finished the season 126th out of 131 FBS teams in penalties (103) and 124th in yards (893).
Alabama should have recruited and developed better on the offensive line, where rare quarterback talent Bryce Young was sacked 63 times over the past 2 seasons — the same line that allowed 167 tackles for loss over that span.
“I don’t even know what to say to that,” an SEC coach told me Wednesday night. “What, is he trying to tell the (Playoff selection) committee I told you so? Is he trying to show them up?”
I’ll take it one step further: This isn’t just about Saban declaring we should have been there. This is Saban feeling threatened by Kirby Smart and Georgia.
When ESPN analyst David Pollack looked at Saban and the rest of the College GameDay crew after the national championship game and said Georgia owns college football, Saban looked like he wanted to jump Pollack.
It was all he could do to not scream at Pollack, “Look, we beat their ass last year in the SEC, and if we don’t have 2 injured wide receivers, we beat their ass again in the national title game, a’ight?”
Now, ladies and gentlemen, I’m going to expose this vote one final, disturbing turn.
Look at the vote. Really, look hard at the vote.
Ohio State was a missed 50-yard field goal from beating Georgia. The Buckeyes’ losses this season were to the No. 2 team in the Playoff, and the No. 1 team in the Playoff.
Saban has Alabama at No. 2 and Ohio State at No. 5.
Five!
Ohio State lost 2 games. Alabama lost 2 games — and by Saban’s own rankings, Ohio State’s losses were significantly better than Alabama’s (Saban ranked Tennessee 6th, and LSU 17th).
But there was Roll Tide in his final poll, holding strong at No. 2 — just in case anyone forgot them. Just in case Smart relaxes this offseason (he won’t; Saban taught him the process), and the Georgia players get distracted (they won’t), Nick just wanted Kirby to see, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that You Know Who isn’t going anywhere.
In the history of Saban tantrums, this might be the best — just on sheer ballsy-ness.
Claiming Jimbo Fisher last year “bought” his entire recruiting class was incredibly childish.
Minimizing Utah and Oklahoma beating Alabama in bowl games was classic Little League.
But this one — oh, boy, this one — is unique. Because I actually think it’s much more than what’s so clearly transparent.
Saban believes he has the better team.
And if that shortsighted Playoff committee couldn’t see that Alabama was better than Tennessee and LSU, and wasn’t so hell-bent on keeping 2 SEC teams out of the Playoff, then the Tide would’ve beaten Georgia in the Peach Bowl — and then dusted off Ohio State or Michigan in the national championship game.
You want should have?
We should have had that, a’ight?
Not that serious…
Now if he put them at1!
President Lyndon B. Johnson once said, “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”
I WISH I could just ratio this dude
Do you disagree with President Johnson?
Yes. He did a bang up job in Vietnam after all.
LBJ was a disaster we have not yet recovered from.
“Do you disagree with President Johnson?”
LBJ was an absolute horrible president. Oh, and he was a r a cist.
So, since you definitely seem to put race first, you should move on over here to Memphis since over 60% of their population is black. Just come see what’s up. Just read their 2022 stats and they were unsurprising. Did you know that more “colored people” were charged with hate crimes in this city than all other races combined? And they also unalived each other at unprecedented rates. They (the majority) decided to revote in the same politicians that have overpromised and underdelivered for decades. Memphis is a blue city and it definitely shows. I have absolutely nothing against any race. I have issues with certain people and their character. Somebody at one point said something about that. I believe he was a pretty prominent figure. And killed right here in good ole Memphis. Imagine that.
Get your head out of your tail and realize that the white man ain’t out to get you. The government is out to get you and everybody else. You have every opportunity in the world right now to do whatever you want. If you choose not to seize that opportunity, that is 100% on you fella.
You are 100% right that the government is out to pit us against each other. It’s kind of what the quote is saying. May I ask when m1norities became 1st class citizens and stopped experiencing r2ce/cla$s base harassment and assault? Did you know that red cities and counties have the lowest education rate? I think it shows. Why do all white $upremacists vote red like you? Why was the 1st think your publicans did this week was gut any type of oversight to insider trading? stop wanting to ‘own l!bs’ and realize you are being played. GO ahead and buy a trump NFT
After reading your reply, I determined pretty quickly that you’re not one that going to rationalize a single thing I have to say. You’d real quick to pull down your mask and yell at me about race. Go ahead, save us some trouble, get another jab and move on with your life. Or, a ticking time bomb that speeds up with every poke.
“They (the majority) decided to revote in the same politicians that have overpromised and underdelivered for decades.”
Same could be said for a lot of high-poverty southern states that have consistently put candidates in state legislatures and Congress who don’t do a thing to actually improve the situation.
“Did you know that red cities ”
What red city?
“Why do all white $upremacists vote red like you?”
Ha ha, we’re gonna do this?
Hey moron,
The Democ rat Party created the KKK.
VFL_88
Willyboob voted for David Duke.
“You are 100% right that the government is out to pit us against each other. ”
You’re doing a great job at that right now, Farrakhan.
“GO ahead and buy a trump NFT”
NFT’s are so 2021, Willyboob. Try harder.
RonMexico with the W.
Suck it Willybob
Willybob lol. Man this a hoot of delerium. If you see the world in black and white, us vs them, you see nothing but fear. Red cities have the best economies, lowest mortality rates and the highest intact family units but gee tell us about mystique insider publican day traders, please. Pulosi and a few other D’s who are still in charge, can’t look at their or their relatives tax’s. Living today requires passing IQ tests to have the standard of living of even a few decades ago. The only thing that can prevent you from having that is your own intelligence. Or, how much can I scare ya stupid for you to prevent yourself from what most people have in red areas?
VFL88
I give you a hat tip, my man.
The government is out to get us, huh? whew, I knew those red hats were lined with tin foil.
Willybob…How about deleting that Cocks logo. You are doing a disservice to all Cock fans everywhere.
You can add Jackson, Birmingham, Mobile, and Montgomery to that list. Jackson is falling every minute.
Willybob, I don’t want to get too much into all this negativity, but I will say as much as Trump was hated by the inner-city folks, he set the record by far for the lowest unemployment rates for all minorities and minority teens in 2018 and 2019. No other president came even close.
No one cares about you or your hero LBJ. Go sell crazy somewhere else. We have enough simpletons around here already.
LBJ was the most rac1st and destructive president we’ve ever had
Until the current model.
The current moron in chief is setting new records for destruction. Willyboob voted him.
This comment section is what I live for
VFL_88,
A Bama, UGA, TN and AU fan all in agreement.
RonMexico
One thing we are all against is tyranny and stupidity
LBJ and the Dems created welfare for votes. It was rat poison to the people.
Well, he did provide electricity to all of rural texas, so there’s that.
It’s well documented LBJ and the Dems created welfare for votes. That’s what they’re doing now with the open border. More people on welfare and more votes for the demorats.
LBJ approved and promoted the coverup of the JFK assassination.
Much Ado About Nothing? I think so.
Alabama was NOT as good as Ohio state or Michigan!!!! I’m not sold they would beat TCU for certain!!!!
Negan
” , Saban looked like he wanted to jump Pollack.
It was all he could do to not scream at Pollack, “Look, we beat their ass last year in the SEC, and if we don’t have 2 injured wide receivers, we beat their ass again in the national title game, a’ight? ”
Why do only Alabama injuries matter??? Georgia had 10 times the injuries Alabama had. Last season and this season. Georgia had waaaaaay more injuries!!! Plus last season 5 teams played Alabama with anywhere from 2 to 6 points WITH METCHIE AND WILLIAMS!!!!! Nobody came close to beating Georgia last season. Alabama only won because we played their style instead of our own!!!! I don’t believe Kirby cared in the least. Because we absolutely did NOT show everything in that game and didn’t even play our style of football!!!!!
Alabama was beaten by A&M and played 4 other teams down to the wire. Auburn gifted Alabama a win they didn’t earn and had a backup QB playing!!!!!! Go watch Alabama play Florida who also gifted Alabama a win. Go watch Alabama play Florida, Arkansas and auburn. Then go watch Georgia playing those same teams!!!!!!! See who you think was better!!!!!
ALABAMA HELD A MENTAL JINX THAT WAS HELPED BY TERRIBLE OFFICIATING!!!!! STILL THAT JINX IS GONE NOW!!!!!!
Georgia sent I believe 15 guys to the NFL??? I know it was a record number!!!! And 5 were first round picks from the defense!!!!! Including the #1 overall pick!!!! Then the portal took a huge bite!!!! Yet this Georgia team walks out and goes 15-0 to repeat as national champions!!!! Yet some still try and imply Alabama was better than Georgia last season??? SORRY BUT ALABAMA WASN’T EVEN IN GEORGIA’S LEAGUE!!!!!!
ALL ALABAMA HAS TO DO IF THEY WANT TO PROVE SOMETHING IS ” WIN YOUR GAMES!!! ”
PS. Until then try and steal Georgia’s thunder, but remember Thor wears red and black now!!!!
Negan
” Saban looked like he wanted to jump Pollack. ”
I would pay to see that!!!!! Ill bet you money Saban wouldn’t jump anyone else!!! LOL
Negan
Wow they’re Matt Hayes, I guess Saban is living in your head rent free. Been saving this article for awhile have you? Every year the same thing and every year Alabama doesn’t fall off a cliff and die. And as for Saban’s voting, I wouldn’t expect any coach in his position to do any differently. It’s called PR and Marketing, aka recruiting. And as for other SEC schools being in the top 5, show me one besides Georgia and Alabama that haven’t been one hit wonders in the last 10+ years. Prove yourself for more than 5 minutes then maybe you get a vote from Saban
Well, if he was looking for PR, he got it.
Can we please all back off the lame, tired, overused “rent free” thing?
By your own logic, Matt Hayes lives “rent free” in your head just because you are here objecting to what he wrote.
Good grief, conjure an original thought and stop parroting what everyone else says.
^^^Agree.
Yeah… I’d say the rent-free thing is both played-out AND a dodge. Just because someone has a problem with Kirby, or Nick, or Josh, or whoever, it doesn’t mean they are obsessed fans whose dislike of Saban clouds said fans’ every thought. It’s more a commentary on the person who plays the “rent-free card.”
When someone is trolling or regularly bringing up a specific unrelated topic it’s a fine put down.
Like a certain idiot who pretends to be for my team who keeps following another fan around to say he went to community college. That’s rent free.
But a professional who is paid to write about college football writing about one of the most prominent teams in college football? If someone says “rent free” that’s just hilarious. And desperate. His employer literally pays for Alabama to have space in his brain.
Well, the Tide lost to a team that the Midget ranked 17th in his rather petulant poll. Expect to lose to the same team in 2023.
Bama does not have to fall of a cliff and lost more than 2 games for Saban to think the team is going off a cliff. In his mind and standard it has. What causes the panic? Bad OC and DC production. He’s not a hands on coach, at least anymore at his age for the defense and never was for any offense. He is a CEO of success with past coordinators. But Sark was a rare talent. He isn’t getting that same production from his OC and DC’s. And he’s having a mental thing over it. All slides are more than one season. This season was the second season in that slide. Is it program ending? No but Saban’s panic also has to do with his NIL and portal views before the season began. ” NIL and portal bad and OK, I am warning you, it will only help us”.. LOL Wrong. It helped everyone else who needed more help than Bama did. Saban needed more production from those coordinators he depends on everything for, in a NIL era now that gets more blue chips to other teams and via portal. Other good programs were going to improve and that means Bama had to be better just to maintain a dominance that for now for a 2nd year in a row has slid. Not off a cliff but panicking like he is doing, can bring about those worst fears coming true. Yes, the dynasty is over for Saban, not sure UGA will ever have one with the 12 team expansion playoffs coming but one thing is for sure. 1. It’s going to be harder to be at the top. 2. It’s going to be harder to get there and stay with everyone else improving. More like the NFL is college football’s future in those respects.
If you keep saying it, eventually it will be true.
TN will win a national championship
TN will win a national championship
TN will win a national championship
Let’s just test this theory.
In the next 3 years we win a natty baby!
Source?
1998.
Vol fans…Alabama will win a National Championship in that time frame but not your Vols as long as Heup is your coach. “Reality” does not seem to register in Vol-gray matter.
Afan…
No one was talking to you man.
Vol fans live in your head rent free.
Corch 9-3
Dawgs2021 Our recruiting class is the source.
Let me untangle your logic. Georgia is going 9-3 with the number 2 class, but Tennessee at 9 is going to win a championship. This of course doesn’t account for current roster talent. To use your own word, your class looks pretty mid lol.
LSU and Notre Dame are higher than the Vols lol. Don’t let facts get in the way of your argument though. Bama and Georgia will continue to dominate. LSU will be better next year. The Vols will regress. Feel free to reexamine this quote around this time next year.
If it happened to A&M at #1, it can happen to Georgia.
Top 10 = Mid
Alright.
Lower standards I guess. To the Bama’s, UGA’s and Ohio States of the world, yeah. Mid. But we get it. Different Standards for mid programs
9-3 incoming
For the Vols? If they get some lucky breaks sure, they could go 9-3. I see 8 wins as more likely though. Of course you ducked Army so yeah, maybe 9 lol
Yeah…Kirby is basically Jimbo I guess lol. So it is going to happen because you really really want it to. OK. You really really wanted to win in Athens too (maybe depending on which Vol fan you ask) and yet…
27-13
6 in a row
1998
9-3
Guys….let’s calm down. In my career I have learned how to reverse search and locate website users where very little info is given. Such as SDS.
nsopw.gov
I have provided the link above to where you can find out everything you need to know about AFan and Dawgs2021.
Naa. But I have noticed that you go to personal insults when you can’t defend your Orange tinted view of football. Not surprising though…not much to defend. One season in 2 decades and even that would be a rebuilding or disappointing year in Tuscaloosa, Athens…Heck Gainesville for that matter. No matter how hard you sell it, the Vols are still sitting at the kid’s table. Sad really.
Look guys. I am really sorry you are so passionate about a team that at the end of the day has just never been especially good. Got a be difficult. Especially in a year like this where you get ranked at number one and have such expectations only to join Ol’ Miss as the only team vote but at number one and miss the playoffs entirely. I mean, to beat Alabama only To see your dreams of a playoff mulligan dashed by South Carolina of all teams…one of the ref East teams you’ve had success against over the past 20 years. Brutal. Just Brutal.
I’m willing to defend my team with as much as they can give me to fight with. I can’t argue with anybody about the Georgia or South Carolina games. Those were absolute whoopings from kickoff. TN is an upper tier SEC team at best at the moment. At the moment, you can put them at the same level as Bama and LSU. Georgia looks down at all of us though. I’m a realist when it comes to TN football. I can tell you I’m not overly confident with this upcoming season. 10 wins is the ceiling and that is a tall order IMO. I enjoy jawing at folks on here. You guys are funny….sometimes. I try to come up with something different from time to time. Keep it fresh in here. I don’t say anything to you guys I wouldn’t say to somebody’s face. I have probably said worse to my Bama fan family members. I try to push you guys to do the same but usually it’s just 1998 or some old worn out line. TN is on the rise but still have a good way to go before we can firmly lay claim that we are a great football team. Let’s see where Heupel is in 2-3 more years and then we can make a judgement.
Dawgs2021 – You are correct. Being a TN fan is absolutely, gut-wrenchingly brutal most of the time. Basketball, football and baseball are all good examples.
If i had a nickel for every time Afan brought up Tennessee fans…
And what do you mean “as long as Heup is your coach”?
He is CLEARLY capable of winning us a natty.
Based on what? Mark Richt was far closer than Heupel has ever been. No team that runs his chuck and duck offense has ever won a championship. So on what are you basing your opinion?
2019 LSU.
2020 Alabama.
Idiot.
Nope. Those were actual pro style offenses with complex routes and reads…Not “Make it easy on the QB” High School stuff Tennessee runs. Besides, those schools are elite programs…not Mid schools trying to pretend to be deserving a of a seat at the grown up table like the Vols.
1998
So what you’re saying is:
Explosive offense = “Easier on the QB” “Gimmicky”
In that case 2019 LSU has a “Easier on the QB” and a “gimmicky” offense as well?
If I had a nickel for every time Tennessee fans claimed “The Vols are Back” I’d have more nickles than Tennessee had claimed titles.
The diffences in Heupel’s Chuck and Duck and the Real Offenses run by those schools are well documented. And they won titles. In Knoxville…
1998
Never once said this. Tennessee has to be consistant for me to say that.
Oh stop. They have been very consistent over the past 20 years or so. 2022 was a bit of an outlier but I’m sure things will be back to normal in 2023
Plus it is only our second year.
Nick Saban didn’t win a natty in his second.
Neither did Kirby Smart. But he actually made the National Championship.
Trust the process and watch.
15**
Just correcting you.
Yeah…Heupel is basically Nick Saban and Kirby Smart. I mean look at all that Success at UCF and all those titles he won as a coordinato…oh…nevermind
It is true that we have been consistant at sucking for 15 years.
But we are getting better.
Stop putting words in my mouth. I never once said that he was Nick Saban or Kirby Smart.
What i’m saying is that he can reach us to the same level of success as them both.
Don’t forget that he won an AAC title twice while he was there with them.
And my azz could turn into a windmill. It is pretty unlikely though
I’d be impressed with those AAC titles if he had coached Basketball
9-3
Georgia’s gonna be 9-3 next year
Did you know it’s super easy to locate Dawgs2021 when you walk into a facility? Look for the guy with the stretch marks all around his mouth. Man went for a world record trying to shove the most cocks in his mouth at once. Man looks like the joker from the dark knight.
Wanna know how I got these scars?? D!cks. A lot of d!cks.
1998.
VFL LMAOOOOOOOOO
Really Corch? 1998?? You are on that same bull$hit that Dawgs2021/kirkm is on. Do better dude.
Surely you have some more creative burns than that. Let’s hear a few of them.
Did you ever get a source for them being 9-3 next year? I mean I gave you one on that whole 2 Natty thing for Tennessee. Seems fair.
Dawgs, maybe it just came to him in a vision while he was giving your wife a rim job while you cried in the corner.
Let me help you out bro cause you’re in this deep state of depression.
1998
Side note – I heard it’s a side effect of getting too many Fauci Ouchies that you start turning into a little b!t-ch. Lay off the shots man.
Classy as always. Sadly not unexpected from Vol Nation. Is the UGA L streak long enough for you to tear down the goalposts if you won? Six years is a long time lol
Dawgs/kirkm calling somebody classy is a sign of defeat. I’ve watched him/her do it for a while now. There is literally nothing to say.
Maybe 6 years is long enough. I’ll celebrate by giving your wife a rim job as well.
You can say whatever you want. Not like the Vols are going to win anything lol. They just aren’t very good and this year sort of represents a “best case” scenario for the Vols. Just another mid tier program. But you’ll always have…
1998
6 in a row
27-13
BTW, in case you lost count, and you could…it is a big number, It has been 8775 days since the Vols won an NCAA Football Championship.
Enjoy Mediocrity (on a good year lol)
* A Real NCAA Football Championship…Not a “Claimed” one.
Find a job man. This is just pathetic to look at.
… 1998
kirkm wannabe
That’s Candyman’s alternate phrasing. Just don’t say it in the mirror.
And now, the end is near
And so I face the final curtain
My friend, I’ll say it clear
I’ll state my case, of which I’m certain
I’ve lived a life that’s full
I traveled each and every highway
And more, much more than this
I did it my way
…
Nice…
I actually agree with Saban. Back your team unabashedly, that’s what a coach does. Look at life through Crimson colored glasses. If he did it as an analyst, I’d have serious reservations about his integrity and professionalism, but he’s a coach who backs his team and there is nothing wrong with that.
Then why not rank Bama #1? Or are you saying that Saban is agreeing with Pollock?
Hard to argue with Pollack after back-to-back and what is coming back next season. Like the others, Bama lost 2 games and the 1 1-loss team, Michigan, lost to a bad TCU team from whistle to whistle. UGA had 2 close games all season and were the clear class of college football this year.
I agree with him too. And he essentially said the same thing before the playoffs started, that Bama deserved it over at least one of the 4 teams.
The games matter.
I think this is mostly a nothing-burger, but I would rank the teams something like this:
#1 – Georiga
#2 – Ohio State (pains me to put them here)
#3 – Michigan (fluke loss, still think they are better than TCU)
#4 – TCU (their luck ran out)
#5 – Tennessee (with Hooker)
#6 – Alabama
Agreed. Except I’d spell Georgia correctly. (:
Uggh! Speed typing for the loss.
I do it more than most. Fat fingers!
“#1 – Georiga”
Is that a new team from South America?
Stetson Benerito as QB?
I wish I could say I was being clever in some way. But no.
Just a good ole fashioned typo without the benefit of an edit.
OrionPeaceUGA
I’m not making fun of you. I laughed at the thought of a South American football team.
I didn’t take it negatively. All good.
South America does have a football team. They just play the game wrong.
Agree to some extent Orion, just not sure where I’d put TCU. I do think Bama would boat race TCU by 20+, so they’d drop but not sure where I’d put TN…above Bama because of head to head but not sure vs TCU.
Michigan beat Ohio State in Columbus.
I’m aware.
Tennessee beat Alabama. But most people still rank Alabama higher.
It’s just my opinion on rankings. So, do you think Michigan should still be #2?
Tennessee beat Alabama in Knoxville in a game that wasn’t decided until the very end. Michigan beat OSU in Columbus in a blowout. Not comparable.
I HIGHLY doubt my Gamecocks would lay 63 on Bama! I know “head to head” counts for some, but the entire body of work also speaks! And to compare UT’s 31-14 spanking of the Tigers after we edged them 31-20, all the MISTAKES that we made resulted in at least 14 or 21 points! UT made no such mistakes.
This is perhaps the most egregious example of yellow journalism I have ever seen outside of the Associated Press, NYT, and WAPO. Are we in the offseason? Yes. Is it necessary to stir readers to manufactured drama 24/7? I should think not.
The real drama will play out on its own next fall, in the form of Georgia, Alabama, a reemerging Tennessee, a reemergence of LSU, and a host of wildcards. Until then, I can do without all the hyperbolic drivel from the alleged sports media – notably such as this.
In the words of TR, “It is not the critic who counts”.
Same pos that said Kirby played Anderson knowing the kid was up shhhht creek without his ra pi st paddle…Hayes is total garb@ge
Hayes’ NY resolution is to alienate all SEC fan bases so that they’ll pay him off to go away.
These kind of articles are the most annoying for me, they are full of bluster and speculation. I clicked on it to see if he had a reasonable explanation, but couldn’t find one.
Your opinion of the column is unimportant, what’s important is that you clicked on it.
It’s AMAZING how few people understand this.
Great post Doc.
Thanks, AFan. I clicked on it mainly because of the headline, seeing how popular it is to portray doom and gloom for the Tide simply because Georgia has arrived. Otherwise, I would have gone straight to the Florida page as is usually my custom.
Alabama and Georgia are going to be around as-is for some time. With the former Light Heavyweights LSU and Tennessee now pulling themselves up to punch in the heavier class, it’s going to get very interesting, and adding in the wildcards like USCe and Florida as time goes by, it may get wild indeed. That’s why I for one love SEC football.
It’s AMAZING how few people understand this.
Agreed doc, same here. I need to remember to skip over his articles from now on.
While his opinion is wrong,, he has points in that they lost 2 games on the last play of the game! So him pushing his team and the 2 vote is wrong,, no need to panic ,, down year finishing at #5 is where the program has evolved because of incredible run he has had ! Every Natty comes with a couple of breaks that go your way and the Tide didn’t capatilize against Tennessee or LSU. Fact is though,, Georgia is a force and will be in the hunt for a 3rd straight Natty next year and Bama will be in the mix as well. Breaks as I said,,, Ohio State hits the FG and we have a whole different scenario, but they didn’t!! As always looking forward to next year
Opinions are neither right nor wrong. They are opinions.
All these gloom and doom predictions about Saban are just so much fodder for clicks. Bama was a couple of plays – or a half dozen penalties – from going 12-0, and Saban again had the #1 recruiting class. A couple of good coordinators can fix all this very quick.
On the flip side, I do feel Nick is pressing at times. Not something he’s used to, and it does come across as a bit petulant and entitled. He’s not had to deal with a seemingly here-to-stay challenger in the SEC like Georgia, and it has upped the ante considerably. LSU took food off his table a couple of times, but the consistency just wasn’t what Kirby is throwing out there.
The next couple of years will tell the tale, I think, on how Saban’s run closes out.
He was also a couple of plays from being 8-4. I would say if Bama didn’t have Young, then they could have easily dropped 5 games. He was the only thing that willed them to victory most of the time. Will another QB step in and save them when the running game and defense looks average? Will their OL and defense return to form? Big questions, like everyone else for a change.
Very true. That Texas game particularly. If Ewers has not been hurt . . . wait, can we say that about any teams other Bama and Ohio State? I think that only applies when it’s UGA doing the heroic winning.
Anyway, yeah – fine line between 12-0 and 8-4.
Writer gets internet combat badge. He can go back to day job whatever that is. Maybe it is Skip Bayless under different name.
I doubt he even does his own ballot. Got a flunkie to do it like most coaches. It is a well known fact that sports information office does this poll for most of the coaches that are voting.
A very good point. However, it’s his name on it so he gets to own it. I don’t think it really is that deep. At the end of the day you want your coach to have an irrational belief in the ability of their team.
Maybe, but Coach Saban is a control freak, so…..
And this is nothing but a blown out of proportion, desperate rant! Saban putting Alabama at #2 isn’t that farfetched. I definitely would put Alabama above TCU and Michigan. I wouldn’t put Alabama above Ohio State, but there is definitely an argument for it. Alabama lost two games in the regular season by a combined 4 points, in overtimes, in extremely hostile environments. Ohio State lost two games where they were blown out at home, and edged out at neutral site. I do think Ohio State should be ranked at least #2 or #3. But I’d also say if Alabama had been in the playoff, they definitely would have beaten TCU or Michigan, would have made the national championship game, and it would have been a MUCH better game. The only complaint I can see would be ranking Ohio State so low, not ranking Alabama that high. However, if you’re thinking about how Ohio State lost to Michigan, and Michigan lost to TCU, it would make sense to rank them below both of those teams. I understand Ohio State gave Georgia all they could handle, but is that because Ohio State was really good, or UGA’s defense didn’t play as well as they should have?? It really just depends on what an individual’s opinion values more. However, going after Saban like this is completely unwarranted. He is the greatest coach of all time, and this is nothing more than a writer trying to write a desperate story making something out of nothing, and trying to continue a controversial narrative that Alabama is dying. Alabama isn’t going anywhere for a while.
First of all, you are correct. None this really matters. I think the thought process is that the final four team stay in the Top 4 and not be penalized for playing an extra game. I think everyone would agree that Alabama was better than TCU. But that should have been decided before the playoffs started.
That is my inclination as well. Otherwise, I might be tempted to move TCU further down in the rankings.
Disagree there JTF. Alabama played an extra game too and it wasn’t against just any team. The Tide opened up a serious can of whoop-ass on K State, which had just beaten TCU.
I agree with David that perhaps THE OSU shouldn’t have been dropped to #5, but once we start taking post season results into account it’s hard not to put them there. Besides, it’s an excellent dig at the Big 10 that the media loves so much.
Didn’t TCU play 15 games vs Bama’s 14? Anyway, not worth arguing over.
Actually Bama only played 13.
So did Ohio State and some on this thread want to rank them #2.
I’d have to put Ohio State, Michigan, and TCU in a tie for 2nd. Michigan shouldn’t be ranked higher than TCU due to the loss. Ohio State shouldn’t be ranked higher than Michigan because of head-to-head. TCU shouldn’t be ranked higher than Ohio State because Ohio State had a far better game against the national champion Bulldogs than the pathetic showing TCU had.
He listed Alabama at #2. Is he wrong?
He seems correct to me.
Make the argument for Alabama over Ohio State. Or over 1 loss Michigan. Or Tennessee.
1. I hate the Bucknuts.
2. Harbaugh can’t win the big one.
3. Err, (rolls eyes)
All valid arguments lol
I have to agree – after watching all the games I do believe Bama would have prevailed in all, maybe including GA. We’ll never know, but to follow Hayes’ LOGIC is ILLOGICAL!
If the Ohio State – Georgia game had been a blowout too, he’d have a good point putting Tennessee or Alabama up there.
There is still a “Coaches Poll”?
Yes, and they still hand out the crystal football on that large, black base that was the defacto BCS National Championship trophy, which they also handed out before the BCS era even began.
Calm down Matt, before you soil your drawers. It’s just Saban taking advantage of a meaningless ballot to tell the world what he thinks of his team after their great performance in the Sugar Bowl and the rest of the CFB world where he believes they belong in 2023.
Good for Saban. Good for the Tide. Good for the SEC. Where’s the harm in all that?
Bingo.
Agreed!
“Alabama should have recruited and developed better on the offensive line, where rare quarterback talent Bryce Young was sacked 63 times over the past 2 seasons — the same line that allowed 167 tackles for loss over that span.”
I don’t think there is a team in the country that has recruited the OL better than Alabama has in the past 5-10 years. It’s the development side. And not necessarily the development side of turning elite high school OLs into elite college OLs. The draft record of Bama at the OL position shows that they aren’t turning too many 5 stars into duds.
It’s about developing the unit. Getting depth to stay on board. Making sure your 2s are prepared. Bama has no excuse for producing even average OL play the way they’ve recruited but at times, especially these last 2 years, it’s been below average.
President Lyndon B. Johnson once said, “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”
You’re a big fan of this saying aren’t you? Seen you post it a few times.
Just another example of why we need an ignore button in this comment section.
He’s a race baiter. He is into double digits on that post. He must have one miserable existence.
Since he probably has gotten multiple Fauci Ouchies, he will only be annoying for a limited amount of time.
The thing that caught my eye about this year’s Bama team was they seemed undisciplined. New school record on penalties in a game and at one point they were #1 in the country for penalties. This is not the Saban coached Bama we’ve seen over the last 15 years. I don’t know if it will get any better this upcoming season with so much of his older talent leaving.
But, just like UGA in 2022, Saban has a lot of great talent ready to replace them. He definitely has to work with his staff on reemphasizing disciplined play and cut down on all the very un-Saban-like penalties.
Lastly, he needs to settle on a replacement for Young. From what I saw of Milroe last season, he’s not a QB that will lead the Tide to a playoff spot in 2023.
Saban has talent coming back. So does LSU and Georgia. This is the first time in a very long time that I can’t think of a handful of Bama players that are household names that will be on the roster going into the upcoming season. What they didn’t lose to the NFL they lost to the portal. Not saying they won’t go 10-2 or 11-1, but I wouldn’t be surprised if we see a 9-3 season either.
Got over the Bama and Florida hurdles last year. Let’s see if we can get over the Bryant-Denny and the Swamp hurdles this year. It’s a very tall order.
Huge if here, but if Alabama replaces Young at QB1, without suffering a major drop-off in performance, UT won’t be able to touch them at Bryant-Denny in 2023.
UF is in the midst of a major rebuild and nobody has any idea how good (or bad) they’ll be in 2023. So, UT better get their licks in then, because after 2023, they’re not going to be easy to play.
Exactly. Those penalties were drive killers on O and drive extenders on D.
Losing guys like Anderson, Ricks, Battle etc should worry a lot of Bama fans. Not only because of losing the talent, but more along the lines of you’re losing your leaders and teachers on the field. The seasoned players help hold the younger guys accountable and you lose that with these guys leaving. With the big jump in penalties this season, it would be a surprise if they whip back into shape over the next season.
Have you not been paying attention the last 15 years, or so?
Alabama under Saban doesn’t rebuild. They reload and will be waiting to remind your Vols of that fact on the 3rd Saturday in October.
I have been paying attention. You don’t play Bama every year so you probably didn’t notice the decline in their play this season other than the 10-2 finish. Having 4 and 5 star talent all over the field is nice but if you can’t stop them from holding or committing PI then what good are they? If your 5 star QB can’t make a good read or is wildly inaccurate under the slightest pressure, what good is he? TN had a 5 star QB in Guarrantano. Highly recruited. Sucked massive a-$$.
Back to form Hayes? Just garbage
Saban doesn’t say or do things without a reason. Is this targeted to motivate his staff/team; you know it is. Is it a slight to the committee, maybe. Is Saban/Bama slipping, no. Sure ’22 was a down yr in Bama standards but they have recruited at the top long enough to have the “dudes”. I think the failure this yr was OC and DC.
SicEm…we Tide fans think the OC & DC both need to coach somewhere else.
We lacked elite receivers and a dominant O-line this year and our record reflected that. Add in the huge number of penalties and that’s what we were…an 11-2 team. The future is bright in Tuscaloosa. Roll Tide !
Absolutely and reasonable take. Was Bama better than TCU, I believe so. Would a UGA/Bama Natty have been a better game, YES. Would Bama have beaten OSU, that’s where I may say NO or at least it would be a similar game to the Peach Bowl. Would Bama and UGA both have made the Championship, possibly.
“Saban stood at the podium after Alabama’s meaningless bowl win over an equally meaningless opponent”
I disagree with both assertions that it was a meaningless bowl game and a meaningless opponent. Call me an SEC homer, but the team who finished 2nd in the West just destroyed the Big 12 champ. There’s plenty of meaning and significance in that.
Agree. If Bama has lost to KState, I doubt Hayes would have characterized as a “meaningless bowl game”. The bottom line is that Hayes loves to kick people when they are down. He probably made fun of his kids if they didn’t learn to ride bikes fast enough for his pleasure. Seems like an angry hateful person.
As a matter of fact, the ESPN hype before the Sugar Bowl was all on the K State side, as they claimed “K State was loaded for bear and ready to beat an aimless Alabama that had lost interest when they missed out on being invited to the CFP.”
Then Young and Anderson announced they wouldn’t skip the Sugar Bowl, despite being projected as high 1st round DCs, and word out of the Little Apple was, “Oh, oh!”
Yeah I’m sure the Bama fans who paid and traveled to New Orleans saw it as a meaningless game and didn’t care if they lost. I’m sure the graduating Seniors (not going to NFL) didn;’t care if they lost the last game they would ever play in because it was meaningless. I’m sure Saban told his players before the game it was meaningless and wouldn’t get upset if they played half-azzed.
Now if the writer said ole Gus treated bowl games as meaningless, then I could probably agree with that statement.
Wonder how long it’s been since saban has actually seen a ballot for this poll. Who cares? I think they are #3 with a good chance against osu, but that’s just an opinion.
“When ESPN analyst David Pollack looked at Saban and the rest of the College GameDay crew after the national championship game and said Georgia owns college football, Saban looked like he wanted to jump Pollack.”
Everyone knows Saban wanted to jump Pollock. Almost nobody in the media has the guts to say anything like that to Saban – they mostly just dodge anything that would shine any negative on Saban and otherwise just promote Saban. That is why ESPN puts Saban front and center in every NC game that he doesn’t earn his way into. Only, this time, Pollock went off script and it backfired on Saban.
I thought Saban’s body language made it look like he knew it was true. If you really want to jump someone, you look them in the eyes. Saban dropped his head and slightly nodded as if agreeing with Pollock’s words.
Early on I remember Pollock almost going out of his way to go against the Dawgs on picks and analysis, presumably to avoid looking like a homer.
Totally redeemed himself saying that. It was hilarious seeing him have the balls to say that while right next to Saban.
“The sky is falling!” That should be the title of every Matt Hayes article. If Matt Hayes really believes what he writes, which is doubtful, then he is living in his own version of reality.
Matt Hayes will not read these comments, will just count how many comments he’s got and knows people have fell for this click bait of an article. That said, he’s an idiot.
They make his articles the first of every morning, so they are bound to get clicks. There are no other new articles for us to comment on. Yellow journalism played for all it’s worth.
^^^
Who’s the bigger child here…Saban for voting Bama #2 or Matt Hayes for writing this hit piece?
“Honestly, this is the stuff of petulant children. This is a temper tantrum of the highest order, a statement so shameless, he may as well have held a press conference to explain the vote.” Matt, I agree.
What Saban is essentially saying is, the regular season games don’t mean anything. Forget that we lost to Tennessee and LSU. Forget that we almost lost to TA&M and also Texas.
The thing that I find most interesting is this. Think about how hard Kirby’s been working to keep his players from becoming entitled. He made sure that his players didn’t think they deserved anything that they didn’t earn.
What message is Saban sending to his players with his shameless lobbying. It’s one thing to try and sway the opinion before the vote. It’s quite a different thing to say you still deserved it after the results are in, and after you’ve already proven you wrong.
Want to know why the team with the most talent in CFB has failed to win over the last two years – Saban’s players are entitled. Don’t believe me – just look at Saban’s own words and his vote…
Tim, I agree with you on this. Entitled attitude on the part of Tide players led to undisciplined play, which led to the flood of penalties, which led to BOTH losses and BOTH close wins.
It’s entirely on Saban and his staff to clean that up AND develop a better QB1 than Milroe showed to be in 2022.
Since Milroe was only a clueless freshman in 2022, I’ll cut him some slack. He better improve dramatically, because he won’t get that excuse in 2023.
What a massive overreaction. All Saban did was put his team above Michigan. The other teams: TCU, and UT had also two losses. One might say: well UT beat Bama. Good point, but UT had a VERY embarrassing loss to South carolina at the most critical point of the season. If anyone should be mad about Saban’s ballot it should be Michigan fans.
Left out Ohio State had two losses and one was embarassing at home.
By every objective tiebreaker used in every sport, Vols would get the nod over the Tide; it took flawed human bias to screw it up!
But, but, but, S. Carolina…
I say, let Vols and Tide settle it on the field! Oh, wait.
Here’s my final poll:
1. Georgia
2. Michigan
3. Alabama
4. UT
5. Ohio State
6. Penn State
7. Washington
8. TCU
You have Michigan ranked 6 spots ahead of TCU despite them losing to TCU? I can’t agree with that. Yes the UGA loss looked bad but you can’t ignore that loss.
TCU had two losses overall – one to a 4 loss team and one loss a 58 point beat down that far surpasses “looked bad”. Michigan had one loss and it was by only one score.
Well I could understand it if TCU beat Michigan in week 2 or something but it was literally a week ago.
Tennessee lost by 50 to an unranked team. TCU lost by 50 to the #1 team. If you’re using beat downs as a measure, you might consider the order of TCU vs TN.
@Booches I understand your point and agree the more recent the game the heavier the weighting on the loss. However, if the committee is admitting four teams based on number of losses: non-conference champs OSU and TCU with one loss over two losses non-conference champs with two losses: UT, Bama, USC; then shouldn’t the final poll ALSO rely mostly on number of losses as well? I think Michigan, being the only one loss team, should be rewarded as such. Let’s be 100% fair: TCU had a GREAT season, but that TCU team would lose to four other SEC teams ( UT, LSU, Bama, and either Ole Miss or Miss State).
@JTF UT lost by 25, not 50. South Carolina did sneak into the top 25 in the final poll. It’s a bad enough loss to matter, not ANYWHERE close to the 58 loss TCU took. That was historically embarrassing.
It doesn’t really matter. He will be the only coach to put them at #2.
Both UGA and Bama have a tall order to fill in replacing their QB1 next season. Sure UGA has an easy schedule but winning it all at this point isn’t likely. We have seen beck in garbage time only. Can he sustain a championship season in the SEC? I hope so, but I am not holding my breath.
a lot of sec and saban defending in the comments section here. no one is really questioning, or should be questioning saban’s place in the heirarchy of coaches, but after getting excluded from the playoffs, to vote your team #2 is a bad a look.
SEC on SEC hate. Priceless!
You’re in heaven.
Lol, been patiently waiting for this day JTF!
1. Georgia
2. Ohio State
3. Bama
4. TN
5. Michigan
Probably accurate.
It should be in relation to how well they played GA:
1)Georgia
2)Ohio State
3)Mizzou
4)Kentucky
5)TN
There’s your final Top 5 for the season.
Ok then
Hilarious.. Matt Hayes trolls and so many fall right in line and the back and forth begins. Are you familiar with the phrase “Pearl clutching”?
The State of Alabama doesn’t pay Saban millions to be fair and objective in his analysis. Who cares where he ranks his team, he’s supposed to believe in them and in himself. People are trying to hype this up to be more than it is cause we’re officially in ‘talking season’.
You’re absolutely right, but my issue is that Saban’s vote was the difference in the finishing order between Tennessee and Alabama. I don’t know, I know only one ranking truly matters, but perhaps, they should “trim the means” and get rid of each team’s highest ranking and lowest ranking in the polls.
There isn’t an objective tiebreaker in sports that would give Alabama the nod over Tennessee.
Matt, I’m with you on almost all of this stuff about Bama. And as we watched, Day had a brain fart and didn’t make the right plays to get his FG kicker closer for a potential game-winning kick. That would have shut down all of this ‘Kirby is the new king’ talk. But, let’s go back to pre-season. Almost all of you media types were fawning all over aTm and what happened? Every dang one of your crew was horribly wrong. This coming year I expect UGA to be the best in the East and be back in Atlanta. Whether it’s Bama or LSU in the West is a coin toss in my mind. But this I’ll bet; it won’t be the Aggies. Regarding Saban believing in his team is natural. But, he does deserve to have an opinion whether you agree or not. Remember, Saban vs Kirby is 1-4.
On the one hand, I get it. You got to back your team. Voting them #2 could be the difference in getting them into the top 5 at the end. And maybe he legitimately believes he had the second best team.
On the other hand, other coaches don’t seem to do this (at least as obviously) and Saban has the whole act about not caring about polls like this.
Regardless if you’re going to take the negative view I think at worst you can say it’s classless rather than that it shows fear.
It absolutely was the difference. Also, why we’re on it, no other Coach was belly aching, or had the opportunity to belly ache, on National TV about being excluded from the playoffs. Heupel didn’t have a vote in the coaches poll, hence the opportunity to nullify Saban’s extremely biased vote. What a crock!
If Saban believes he has the second best team in the country, then he should vote them as such. I don’t see anything wrong with that. The article is nonsense. Polls are opinions. Interesting how some people want to mandate their opinions on others. That’s not how life works.
I think this article is a huge overreaction. What difference does it make if you aren’t #1? He gave Georgia their due. After that first loser is the same as all the rest. You don’t hear fans chanting “we’re #2, we’re #2”.
Already like a book worth of comments on this post lol
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Brave.
His immature petulant personality shines bright when he’s not winning it all. Always been that way. I bet he’s annoying AF to be around 24/7.
Matt, you dumb@$$ what makes you think Saban filled that ballot out? Though OSU got blown out by Michigan, the same team that got beaten by a team that lost by almost 60 points in their last game and lost their last 2 out of their last 3 games. Michigan had one loss, but it was to said team that lost the other 2 of their last 3 games by a total of 61 points. Then you come to TCU, if you think a team that lost 2 of their last 3, and the last one by 58 points, deserves to even be in the top 5 then you are part of the problem with society. There are consequences for your actions. So, open your head and have someone scoop the $h!t out for you.
how some of the coaches vote is interesting. Saban voting bama #2 actually doesnt seem out of line to me. he said, when he was trying to make his case for getting included in the CFP “we would be favored over all those teams”. he may be right but theres woulda, coulda and didnt.
Butch Jones who was fired from UT voted the vols #7, Greg schiano whose imminent hiring at UT caused a riot voted them #7, dave Doeren of nc st who was offered the job voted them #8 as did a coach from nevada or unlv or some podunk school out there….
Who cares really. if you arent #1 you lost.
Oh and Pat Narduzzi of pitt, who we barely beat to start the season voted UT #4. With some coaches its about making their own program look better or another program look worse… than what they really think.
fuzzy…Good Post !
Bama is probably the best two loss team in the country. I would put Michigan 2nd behind GA because they only had one loss. Bama is better than TCU and Ohio State. I still think the washed up business is wrong. He needs a good OC and he is back in business.
I think Matt’s article is a little over the top. Saban gets a vote. Period. And he believes his team is the second best team in the country. I saw much worse voting this year.
If Alabama is never in the playoffs again, I’m happy to say, nobody will miss them!
Truth! However unlikely it would be, I expect Bama to at least be in the conversation again next year, they’re still really good. Then we have expansion coming which will obviously help.
Man, the h e l l with SDS. While I enjoy the interaction with fans of all the schools, I’m sooooo tired of the hacks that call themselves journalists. They either plagiarize other websites or retread the same tired c r a p. “Fans are upset with Gary Danielson!”
I’d encourage all SEC fans to look at SB Nation and find their team’s page. It’s much better than the drivel you’ll find here. Good luck to everyone next season! I love SEC football but I’m done with this site.
Oh, and Negan. I know you do your trolling in fun but you can do it without writing a novel each time.
I would agree that Alabama was number 2 by year’s end. I don’t see the big outcry over this. Alabama wouldn’t have lost 65-7 to Georgia that is for sure. I guess I could see Ohio State at 2, but I don’t know….
You need to read Robert Caro’s biography of LBJ. One of the best biographies ever written and it also is a great history lesson of that era. LBJ was responsible for passing the most important civil rights legislation ever. He was complicated and certainly had enormous faults but your criticism is not accurate.
Rat bait.
On losing players to injury.
It is par for a rugged fifteen-hole course.
Rather than being an excuse, it is who you are now.
That is, if a team’s number one receiver goes down to injury, then what you have is who you are right now, and therefore, making that as an excuse is arguing “if’s” and the past.
After an injury to any player, that is who you are now.
Georgia knows, and deals with it, just like everyone else.
Complaining “what if’s” is lame.
If Horned Frogs had wings, they could fly.
How can you say that Bama should have recruited better? Maybe some of the kids didn’t pan out like everyone thought, but their classes are still out of sight! If anything, maybe the years of poaching his assistants have caught up to them?
The BamaTurds go 9-3 or 10-2 at best next year. It’ll be fun watching the meltdowns.
Texas beats them by 10.
Either Tennessee or LSU rolls through Tuscaloosa and gets a win.
THEN the icing on the meltdown cake….Auburn with 1st year coach pulls out a shocking miracle with a sad depressed Bama team knowing they’ve already blown their playoff chances yet again.
Bama Turds? What is it with the feces fetish of some alleged Georgia fans? Limited vocabulary? Can’t think of any other way to denigrate other fans, while ironically demonstrating insecurity in your own?
This is embarrassing really. The old man is about done. He can still recruit but apparently can’t hire the right coaches to coach’em up. By the way, who was really the defensive guru, Saban or Smart? I would say Smart. Since Smart left Bama’s defenses haven’t been near as good and the Dawg’s are perennially top 3.
Who cares! Alabama CRUSHED KSU, who beat TCU. It’s not a stretch at all.
Alabama at 2?? Hahahahaha
UGA would have beat Bama by 3 touchdowns. So much inbred bama embarrassment was saved by seeding them correctly this year.
Just like they beat OSU by three td’s right?
UGA got a lot of help from the refs to upset OSU. Holding calls, interference calls, 2 targeting calls. Any one of those if called could have ended the game with OSU winning by 2 or 3 scores.
TN would have beaten UGA at a neutral site and destroyed the in Knoxville. Bama’s offense has been better than UGA most all season. Better QB and a better passing scoring offense. Even scoring on 94% of their drives they still lost in knoxville. UGA’s offense isn’t built this way. OSU gave you a small taste of what TN could do if it schemes to do so. And you lost the second half to TN in the matchup in Athens. Saban just finds a way to beat UGA and TN did it for decades against UGA. But also don’t agree Bama at 2. I think just behind TN 4 and 5.
Georgia would have beat TN by more than 3 scores if they played again. TN was saved by the rain in the 2nd half of their game with Georgia. Kirby’s exact words were that he “took the ball out of the offense’s hands” because of the weather. Had it not rained, TN would have lost by 42 or more. They had no ability to stop UGA’s passing game. Georgia threw the ball 4 times in the 2nd half. It’s so obvious what really happened here.
All of that happened WITH Hooker at QB.
At the end of the day, TN was just an average SEC team this year. You can’t beat a washed up Bama team by 1 point at home and proclaim yourself elite. The only reason TN even had a shot at beating Bama this year is because UGA broke Bama’s program in the title game last year. You should thanking us.
gwhite…Your posts are littered with Could/Shoulda/Woulda possibilities about Vol football. All that counts is the W/L.
A pitiful cry for help. He needs some new assistants. Lol. The OC/DC suck.
Well Saban got rid of the DC. I’ll bet Saban told him “You’ve two weeks to find another job or I’m gonna fire you”.
Matt, you’re way off base. I agree with Saban. Alabama would have beaten any of those other teams below them. I’m going to save this story so if Bama wins the natty next season I’ll print it, send it to you, and you can eat it.
lol Bama would not have beaten TN and didn’t. Imagining only scoring 40 something against KSU’s D. LOL TN would have dumped 55 plus on KSU. Saban lost to LSU so we can’t say how it would go against OSU, Michigan etc but TN, nope. NIL and the portal have proven to be a much much bigger issue for Saban than he assumed. Actually thought it would help him have more of an advantage over everyone else. Forgot that everyone else would improve more because they finally got more help and blue chips in short order. Making games more competitive and eventually leading two losses on the season from two teams that have benefited more from NIL and the portal than Bama. AS teams get closer in depth, coaching becomes more important. Depth alone isn’t winning games for Bama anymore, UGA either.
…an SEC coach told me Wednesday night…
No he didn’t.
Ohio State is clearly number 2 in my opinion. It took a missed field goal that was within their kickers range for us to win. That includes them playing without Smith-Njigba who is just as good if not better than Harrison, and without their best running back. I just don’t believe Bama’s pass defense would have held up against Ohio State nor would any other team. Michigan beat them with two big plays late in the game. The final score made the game look more one-sided than the play on the field. I would not put Tennesse in the top 4 simply because in the biggest game of their season in Athens, their all-world offense with their Heisman candidate QB did not show up and I feel the same about TCU. I would go Dawgs, Ohio State, Bama, and Michigan.
Keeping or getting back to sports…..maybe the only thing wrong with this is Saban should have voted Alabama #3 as it clearly looks like that is the situation. Matt Hayes, if you want to blame or call someone out, I blame Michigan for the worst championship game in playoff history. Again, clearly, TCU should not have been in the CFP. The two top Big 12 teams both got whomped…by two SEC schools. Put your anger back in your pocket Hayes, Saban missed the vote position by one spot. I beat you know it too.
Bet and beat. Thanks for no edit button. Gotta do better proof reading.
Listen y’all, Georgia has earned the right to claim the top spot in college football! Get over it. And until my Crimson Tide or your team, whomever that may be, unseats them, get used to it because Georgia is not gonna go away, as long as Kirby is there! As Bama fans, sucking hind teat is not what we have become comfortable with.
Triggered?
Check the computers, they agree with him. So does Kirby, he just can’t admit it.
Who really believes that TCU is the second best team in College Football? I’ve been a fan of Sagarin’s rankings for decades. A great source if you are in the betting world. His final rankings are: Georgia, Bama, Ohio State, Tennessee, Michigan, Penn State, Utah, Texas, TCU and LSU for his top ten. Real analysis, not emotion.
Matt Hayes is a homer, garbage journalist.
There is no one on this site that misses the target more than Matt Hayes. He is always all over the map. His articles are always “who am i sucking up to today.” Really don’t understand why he’s here, SDS was doing great without him and I enjoyed the new unknown names doing the articles instead of the same old tired national retreads.
Anyone that watched CF seriously this past season knows that there is no way TCU belongs in the top 5. Their defense gave up 110 points in their last 2 games!! 110 points! UGA is 1st. I’d put Ohio State second. Tennessee, Bama, and Michigan are all in the debate for the 3rd spot… and honestly, it doesn’t really matter who goes where.
teamwooley………Why doesn’t Saban stop crying like a child? When will he grow up??? He has been treated like royalty to the point he believes his own press!!!!! He wants to blame anyone but himself for missing the playoffs!!!
PS. It’s over Nick, bow down to the new King!!!
Negan
Matt Hayes,You are not a once,you are a douche!Where does this site get these writers?Does a little ten(twelve)site have writers this bad?I wouldn’t wish this scribble on anyone.The only reason people read this is tripe is because it’s about the SEC.
What’s far more pathetic than this is Saban calling hit on Harrison targeting. A former DB himself calling a clean hard shoulder to shoulder hit targeting, when replay officials in NY and the ESPN replay official said it was is about as sorry as I’ve ever heard. It Dabo- level pathetic.
Bama over KSU over TCU
Bama over KSU over TCU over Michigan
Bama over KSU over TCU over Michigan over OSU
Broken down scientifically
Lol. Kent State 17 point loss to UGA, who beat TCU by 63, a TCU who beat Mich by 6, a Much who routed OSU, therefore Kent State over OSU in a rout.
#GumpLogic
Willybob I’ve had the experience of 35 years of working with numerous individuals who have JD’s, MBA’s, MD’s and PHD’s from some of the top universities in the country. I can tell you one thing I’ve learned from this experience. The level of one’s education doesn’t equate to the level of one’s intelligence. So a rancher in the red state of Montana with a high school degree can be much more intelligent than a lawyer with a Harvard degree in the blue state of New York.
Ohio State would have embarrassed Bama.
A little info and some facts to increase the Gumps heart rates.
Saban started HC at 39yrs – 1st 7yrs of CFB Head coaching = 51-30-1 record (left for Browns DC 4yrs after 1st year HC at Toledo) Age at end of 1st 7yrs CFB HC was 51yrs old with a 51-30-1 record.
Kirby? Started at 39yrs old as well. 1st 7yrs of coaching record is 81-15 and is almost 47yrs at the end of it.
Saban Bowl record at Bama in 16yrs? 16-6 (and on the decrease)
Smart Bowl Record at UGA in bowls in 7yrs? 8-2 (and on the increase)
Saban is actually worried about his Legacy as it seems it will be surpassed by a good margin fairly soon.
Hi, I think you have to be a registered idiot to think that Georgia is the elite team in football now. You have to be especially lucky to win a national championship period. Let us look at past results to verify what I said. Georgia is a terrific team, but luck has lots to do with their championship. When Georgia played Missouri they were down 13 going into 4th quarter, Ohio State missed a 47 yard field goal at the last of the game, if they had of made it Georgia would be out. Look at Ohio state, they got trounced by Michigan. Yet TCU beat them. MY point, when you are playing an opponent at their home field they have a tremendous advantage, Georgia played Tennessee, Lsu and others with a home field advantage, look a Tennessee and South Carolina, blowout, home field advantage and yes Tennessee had a does correct quarterback problem. Study the past, you will clearly see that Nick Saban does correct things. Notice Kiffen, Sarkasian and Bill Obrein said the only phone calls they received was from Nick Saban. MY point, Saban will get it right, The transfer policy and NIL money has and will continue to affect all teams.
SDS use to have mainly articles of insight and creativity coupled with some analytics and a love of the game. Now it is this kind of stuff. A coach of a 2-loss team (by 5 pts) in the toughest conference votes his team second in a meaningless poll over one and two-loss teams playing weaker schedules and this is hard evidence of the end??? Is this a junior high writing project? Oh for a return of more Matt Hinton. BTW, I’m not a Bama fan or even close. Just someone who used to enjoy SDS